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Saturday, December 5, 2015

LDC-UDC ISSUE AND OTHER ISSUES RELATED TO ADMN STAFF & LOW PAID EMPLOYEES: LETTER TO COMRADE SHIV GOPAL MISHRA, SECRETARY STAFF (SIDE),JCM

ALL INDIA ASSOCIATION OF ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF (NG)
MINISTRY OF STATISTICS AND PROFRAMME IMPLEMENTATION
GOVERNMENT OF INDIA
Hall No. 201 & 205, Vijay Stambh,
Zone I, M.P. Nagar, Bhopal- 462023
Tel (R): 0755-2789523, Mob. 09425372172
Dated 06/12/2015
To
Com. Shiv Gopal Mishra,
Secretary, JCM (Staff Side),
New Delhi
e-mail: nc.jcm.np@gmail.com

Dear Comrade,

You are aware that this Association had taken up the issues of LDC/UDC and MACP. It has seen that JCM (Staff Side) has raised the MACP issue in its agenda as the same has been reflected in the letter written to Cabinet Secretary by you. But the LDC/UDC issue- the real issue of sufferings of tens of thousands of low paid employees posted in subordinate offices has not reflected in the said letter. In this context, we are receiving hundreds of phone call, numerous e-mail and hundreds of comments posted in our web site, requesting to pursue the matter for a positive end. There will be no positive end without the active support of NC JCM. Thus this letter is being written to bring to you the real position faces the LDCs in subordinate offices. I am sure, the brief note on the subject given in item I below together with the Annexure I-III(enclosed) will sufficient to know the seriousness of the issue.
Moreover, deficiencies of recommendation of 7th Pay Commission in respect of Administrative Staff/low paid employees are also given in Item II to IX below. This may also be discussed in the meeting of NCJCM on 8th December 2015.

 (1) LDC/UDCIssue:

7th Pay Commission has turned down the genuine issue of LDC & UDC on the ground that the government has stopped direct recruitment for the clerical cadre and gradually phasing out the existing incumbents( Please see Para 11.22.100, Para 11.52.32, Para 11.52.32,. Para 7.7.37 & 11.35.28).  Issuing of such an order without the knowledge of Staff side may not be possible. Thus reason given for rejection of the demand is not convincing.

Besides Confederation/Staff Side JCM, several Departments had recommended upgradation of grade pay of LDC & UDC of Administrative Offices especially the LDC & UDCs of subordinate offices of Government of India.

But the fact is that Staff Selection Commission is frequently conducting recruitment for the post of LDC. Combined higher secondary examination for the selection of LDC also has been conducted recently. Moreover, no alternative recommendation to replace the LDC post is given in the report.  It is to be noted that the normal ratio of LDC and UDC in subordinate offices is 3:1 and thus LDCs have been allocated responsible sections and in many smaller offices LDC alone is handling the work of entire Administration.  The direction set in the recommendation of the Commission is to contractorise all the Administrative posts below the post of Assistants. This should be prevented at any cost and a respectable pay scale for LDC & UDC should be ensured. Without the active support of the Confederation/JCM this cannot be done.

LDC & DEO

On the other hand rejecting Central Secretariat Clerical service demand of parity with DEO, the commission observes “Even though the entry requirements are similar, historically the pay scales of the two posts have been different. Besides, they comprise two distinct cadres with different set of roles and responsibilities. Hence, the demand for parity of pay of LDC with DEOs cannot be acceded to by the Commission.”(Para 11.35.38).

Historically these cadres may be different set of roles but the fact is that functions of LDC are more complex than that of DEO and same was brought before the commission by various Associations/Administrative Authorities. Earlier pay Commissions have fixed Pay Scale to DEO considering their work on computer. But today LDCs are selected on the basis of their expertise in computer operation also.

As you know, in subordinate offices DoPT manual is not followed for allocating work to LDCs there.  In order to bring the reality, some comments among the hundreds of comments posted in our web site/received through e-mail is given in annexure I, II & III. Please go through it.
  
(2) Parity of pay of Assistant/Stenographers with Central Secretariat.

Sixth Pay Commission has recommended parity for Assistant of subordinate offices with the Assistants of Central Secretariat and recommended Rs. 4200 grade pay for the genuine reason given in its report. But while implementing the report, grade pay of Assistant of Central Secretariat has been increased to Rs. 4600. All the Associations/Federations including this Association had demanded parity of pay of these cadres with Central Secretariat. JCM Staff Side through its memorandum had demanded parity with the Assistant/Stenographers of Central Secretariat. But in place of increasing the grade pay of Assistants/Stenographers of Subordinate offices, the Pay Commission has reduced the grade pay of Central Secretariat Assistant/Stenographers (Para 7.1.4(J). While implementing 7th Pay Commission Report, Government may not accept the degradation of the grade pay of the cadres of Central Secretariat. Thus necessary action to keep the pay of Assistant/stenographers of Subordinate offices including NSSO Offices at par with their counterpart at Central Secretariat is required.

Similarly, the NFSG granted to the UDCs of Central Secretariat has also been withdrawn by the 7th CPC in its report (Para 7.1.4(J). Our demand is that the NFSG may be restored and the benefit of the same should be extended to the UDCs of subordinate offices also.

(3) Grant of MACP on Promotional Hierarchy:

The report of the Commission is confusing and contradictory. Please see Para 5.1.12, 5.1.44, 7.4.8, 74.13, 11.52.45 etc. The Pay Commission has drafted MACP recommendation to fool the employees and giving benefit to Government. We should not accept 7th CPC recommendations unless there is clarity on MACP.

(4) Filling up of 50% administrative post next higher to the MTS through promotion/Departmental Examination.

Sixth Pay Commission had raised the educational qualification for direct recruitment for the post MTS to Matriculation and the status of the post has been raised from group D to Group C. But a person who passed matriculation might have also been passed 12th standard. And most of the persons who passed 12th standard may be a graduate and selected to the post of MTS do not join the post and those who joined do not do several of the assignments earmarked in the recruitment rules for the MTS with devotion. Thus our Association suggested (1) Payment of special/allowances in addition to pay to attract a person with a qualification higher than matriculation to join the post (2) filling up of  50% post of the administrative post next higher to the MTS through promotion/Departmental Examination

But according to 7th Pay Commission report, recruitment of LDC is stopped by the Government. This will affect detrimentally to the promotion scope of MTS, which may be looked into.

(5) Cadre Review:

The maiden cadre review proposal in respect of Administrative staff of NSSO Offices, started in the year 2008 reached nowhere.  Whereas two cadre review of Group A Officers have been processed and implemented during the corresponding period. Thus cadre review procedure for group B & C staff should be simplified. And all the cadre review proposals pending with various Ministries should be finalized/ implemented immediately.

(6) Transport Allowance

In A1 cities the employees crossed the limit of Pay Rs. 7440/ in pay band 5200-200200 was getting transport allowance Rs. 1600+DA. But 7th CPC has recommended only Rs. 1350 for these employees. The disparity is to be removed.

(7) Abolition of interest free advance:

Pay Commission has recommended abolition of 12 advances including, Festival Advance, LTC Advances, Tour/Tr TA Advance Medical Advance etc. This will affect the touring staff and low paid employees. If this recommendation is accepted, no low paid employee can avail LTC.

(8) Abolition/Reduction of Care Taking Allowance:
               
As per recommendation contained in Para 8.3.23 of the 7th CPC report, the present care taking allowance has been abolished and in place Extra Work Allowance at  a  uniform rate of 2  percent  of Basic Pay per month. This will affect detrimentally to the caretaking work in various NSSO Offices especially in FOD Offices where permanent care takers are not appointed and the person assigned the duties of caretaking are doing heavy responsibilities

(9(i)) Provisions of bunching to remove anomaly, need further clarification.

In order to remove the anomaly during fixation, provisions for bunching is given in Para 5.1.36 wherein a provision for one additional increment equal to 3 percent may be given for every two stages bunched, and pay fixed in the subsequent cell in the pay matrix. But the model illustration given in Para & 5.1.37 need more clarification in the light of inadequacy in pay fixation in several stages. One example is give below:

S. No.
Name
PIPB
GP
Basic Pay
*2.57
Fitment
1
Mr  P
10,510
2400
12,910
33,179
33,300
2
Mr. Q
10,450
2400
12,850
33,025
33,300
3
Mr  R
10,230
2400
12,630
32,459
33,300
4
Mr. S
10,210
2400
12,610
32,408
33,300

The stages of pay to be fixed in each person in the aforesaid example and in several other cases need to be clarified.

(9(ii)) On other hand, pay fixation on promotion from UDC to Assistant immediate next pay scale is found more beneficial than the hierarchical promotion. Fixation of a UDC drawing Rs. 10960+2400 promoted to Assistant is given below:

Fixation on Pay scale hierarchy i.e., Rs, 2800 GP

1/1/2016          10960+2400=13360*2.57       34335              34300
Increment on 1.7.2016                                                              35300
Increment on Promotion                                                            1059
Pay fixed at higher stage in 2800 Grade Pay                               37000

Fixation on Promotional hierarchy i.e.  Rs 4200 GP

1/1/2016          10960+2400=13360*2.57       34335              34300
Increment on 1.7.2016                                                              35300
Increment on Promotion                                                            1059
Pay fixed at higher stage in 4200 Grade Pay                               36500

Similar deficiencies may be noticed in other cases also. For similar cases multiplication factor should be increased. This may also be looked into.      
  
Yours comradely

TKR Pillai
General Secretary

Copy to:
1.         The President/Secretary Genberal, Confederation of Central Government Employees & Workers, New Delhi.
2.         Com. M S Raja/Vrigu Bhattacharya/R N Parashar, Member JCM (Staff Side), New Delhi.

TKR Pillai
General Secretary


33 comments:

  1. पिले, साहब पूरा Hindustan clerical staff आपके साथ है

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  2. पिले, साहब पूरा Hindustan clerical staff आपके साथ है

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  3. If parity with DEO could not be accepted with LDC parity with constable must be accepted by them because constables were up graded from group D.

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    1. According to Pay Commission report, Government has stopped recruitment to the post of LDC. Now the demand for up gradation of all LDCs to the level of UDC is being raised.

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  4. Thanks Sir, You are the only one who is aware of our pain.

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  5. recruitment of LDC & DEO are contunuously made by SSC. This time CHSL 2015 is in progres.

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  6. Thanks Pillai Sir,

    After long struggle now hope is there, Please get it done of LDCs UDCs grade pay work this time from them.

    You are our hope, without your Association it can not possible.

    All the BEST

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  7. And Now days all work is become online so all LDCs & UDCs are doing online work, i.e making online payment such as ECS, E-payment. LDCs & UDCs are also operating their Ministry’s software programmes for online work. LDCs & UDCs performing computer’s work on NIC based website. Operating computer for sending & receiving Emails. Also updating data in computer by making data entry, keeping proper records etc and many other different types of important work are regularly performed by LDCs and UDCs.
    If DEO Data Entry Operator is getting grade pay Rs.2400/- at entry level just for data entry only and we all LDCs and UDCs are performing much more Computer work compared to them then why not grant LDCs grade pay of Rs.2400/- as the required qualification has also been raised from SSC to HSC. Surprisingly in 7th CPC also the recommendation of grade pay to LDCs & UDCs is unjustified.

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    1. In AIIH&PH, Kolkata the pay scale of LDCs and DEO(earlier designated as Junior Computer) in 4th CPC were same and promotuonal scope for Junior Computer was to Senior Computer/UDCs as per RR. Now on 6th CPC it was Rs. 2400/- to DEOs and LDEs are Rs. 1900/-. The job responsibilities of LDCs/UDCs are higher than DEOs.

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  8. Thanks Pilliji for raising the genuine demand of LDCs and UDCs. You are a real hero. With best wishes. Sushil Chandra Shekher, UDC, Doordarshan Kendra, Lucknow.

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  9. Pawan Kumar, LDC, MuzaffarpurDecember 6, 2015 at 10:31 PM

    Dear Pillai Sir,
    Lot of thanks to you who is only hope for lakhs of poor LDC and UDC staff

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  10. Pillai Sir, only you are the hope of millions of LDC and UDC throughout the country what so ever the departments they belongs. I belongs from Navodaya Vidyalaya, but our Association (AINVSA) is only for teaching staff and for their well being. No one care for poor LDC and UDC. We have lost our dignity of life. So sir, please go on for the sake of us too.

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  11. Thanks a lot sir for this type of great support for ours

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  12. Pillai Sir and all concerned

    Have a glance to e-rajasthan Patika dated 8.12.2015 (Tuesday) any edition Jaipur, Jodhpur, Ajmer etc. etc. (front page) wherein news of the employees of Rajasthan State Electricity Board (RSEB) has gone to strike in support of pay band of Rs. 2400.
    Kindly think sincerely and explore the possibility that we may take this kind of step to get the goal ?

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    1. उनका बिल्कुल सही कदम है । वे जानते हैं कि पत्रों और कोर्ट केसेस से कुछ नहीं होना है ।

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  13. Since any common platform or federation representing the clerical staff of all the Ministries is not available, giving a call for a common action is not possible. Thus Associations of the respective departments may be asked to take up the issue with concerned Ministry/Departmental authorities in its own seriousness. National JCM/Confederation can also be contacted.

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    1. Sir, our association i.e. AINVSA (All India Navodaya Vidyalaya Staff Association) is a association meant for Navodaya staff but works for only teaching fraternity. Not a single demand of non-teaching was fulfilled. Why they should think for the up-gradation of LDC as they think LDC is not more than a MTS and if up-graded they will not work like labour in the Vidyalaya (carrying/arranging store materials, keeping/maintaining more than 500 personal files of students, parents correspondance,and other normal duties of LDC). Therefore, except individually by us our association will do nothing for us. We only have faith in you Pillai Sir and we will stand where ever require our help.

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    2. If so, Navodaya Non teaching staff should form a separate All India Association for them.

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    3. All LDC & UDC ,s should form a seperate association on national level (who are working in subordinate offices of govt. of india all department) like doctors, pharmacist councel. Nursing counsel.

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  14. TA in 7cpc should be more than current TA+DA and HRA should be retained to current 30%, 20%, 10% slabs as in 6cpc moreover interest free advances like medical/ltc advance should be retained without which lower paid employees cannot afford it.

    moreover ACP in 5CPC was introduced to gave benefit to the deprived employees who were in the same scale from/over 20 years due to non availability of promotion which was later reduced to to the macp on grade pay hierarchy thus affected persons are those who haven't any promotional avenues not those who had it. so kindly look into this.

    Moreover Children education allowance payment was made simple in 6cpc by the submission of original receipt which should be retained.

    moreover liberal hours atleast 1/2 hour in morning and 1/2 hours in evening was not find place in the current 7cpc report as demanded for PH/womens due to rush traffic hours in morning and evening.

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  15. MUJHE LAGTA HAI YE SAB FALTU KI BLOG BANA KAR BAITHE HAI PICHALE 10 SAAL SE MEIN IS BLOG KO PADTA HO , LEKING ISHASHE KOI LAABH NAHI HUA HAI, AGAR KOI SANSAD (MP) PAKDA HOTA TO AAJ LDC/UDC KA KALYAN HO JATA BUS KEWAL BLOG LIKHO YE KARENGE O KARENGE HOTA KYA KUCH NAHI .

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    1. Our Association has started this blog in the month of April 2010. And then how you viewed this blog for the last 10 years? Spreading lie is not a good thing. And the LDC UDC issue has taken up by us in the year 2012-13 only. And the pressure created through this blog and the efforts adopted by Confederation/ National JCM led the decision of the Government to abolish the post of LDC. According to our request National JCM has taken up the issue and demanded upgradation of all posts of LDC to UDC. As regards the submission of the case through MPs etc, since you are a regular reader, you could also have to approach any MPs. But you have not did it and do not want to do anything and only wanted to write negative comments to discourage the people at work.. One can give opinion easily, but cannot do work in the desired direction. Friend, do realize the emotional efforts of the people at work and if you are not in a position to respect it, please do not discourage.

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  16. Sahi baat hai I agree with you but koshish tho karna hai Pillai sab vahi kar rahe hai

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  17. December 10 2015 10 2015 12.11 am

    I don't understand, why are you hiding your identity and commenting for negative thoughts.

    Dear friend first of all I should tell you, this is the only blog who brought lakhs of Ministerial staff in one platform.
    I have proposed earlier and again I propose...
    Friends let's create our own ministerial staff federation. Pillai ji thanks a toton for giving us this platform to put our ideas in front of people who can understand our struggle.

    And let's pray for 4th January to see a fruitful result after waiting for 8 years.

    Pillai ji
    I will throw a party just for you if result of SLP comes fruitful on 4th January. You should come down to Kolkata.
    S.Goswami Kolkata
    somu2401@yahoo.in

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  18. Friends its not fair to let people down by making such odd remarks, at least this issue has got a bearth in the charter of demand.Think positive and at least encourage those who are thinking for this dead cadre.And if you have some good proposal bring it in this forum but please don't make any derogatory remarks for anybody.We have to fight till the end.As far as MP's roles are concerned all of us know, and 7th commission's report is a good example of the deeds of our MP, without Govts consent this type of recommendations can't be given, so have patience.Pillai Sir is working on the issue despite his illness and carefully read his blogs, the way the compilation of facts he has done is awesome.

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  20. Hon'ble Pillai Sir,
    I do not belong to your department and thus not a part of your association. However, I have immense respect for you. I really admire you for you selfless efforts for the betterment of LDCs. When no one raised their voice for us you were the one who stood by us. It is because of your effort that the issue has caught the eyes of pay commission and JCM. As far as people criticizing you are concerned they must be neglected for they are cynics. I shall pray to the almighty to keep you and your family in the best of health. Thank you.

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  21. And Now days all work is become online so all LDCs & UDCs are doing online work, i.e making online payment such as ECS, E-payment. LDCs & UDCs are also operating their Ministry’s software programmes for online work. LDCs & UDCs performing computer’s work on NIC based website. Operating computer for sending & receiving Emails. Also updating data in computer by making data entry, keeping proper records etc and many other different types of important work are regularly performed by LDCs and UDCs.
    If DEO Data Entry Operator is getting grade pay Rs.2400/- at entry level just for data entry only and we all LDCs and UDCs are performing much more Computer work compared to them then why not grant LDCs grade pay of Rs.2400/- as the required qualification has also been raised from SSC to HSC. Surprisingly in 7th CPC also the recommendation of grade pay to LDCs & UDCs is unjustified.

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  22. According to current work load the grade pay of LDCs must be 2800/- and UDCs must be 4200. I am an LDC incharge of a whole division doing the work worth of UDC. Handling playbills of around 250 employees and their income tax statements etc. Their GPF withdrawal, LTC etc. Drafting of letters and linking cases with suitable reference. Maintenance of construction accounts. Maintenance and upkeeping of around 500+ files under my custody. Preparing cheques for payment of pay bill,temporary ta/da bill, permanent ta/da bills etc. ALL THESE ARE PART OF MY ROUTINE DUTIES. And still my boss never hesitates to call me in late evenings and Sunday mornings regarding duties. Now its up to the government to decide whether it is doing justice by giving a grade pay of Rs 1900/-. Even a constable and postman are getting a grade pay of Rs 2000.

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